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Post by Twinkle (My Sweet Angel) on Apr 29, 2020 12:24:49 GMT -5
Watch the Kentucky Derby at home party on May 2nd from 3-6 pm ET on NBC, NBCSports.com & the NBCSports app.
Virtual Kentucky Derby Odds
PP Horse Odds Jockey
1 Affirmed 5-1 Steve Cauthen
2 Assault 20-1 Warren Mehrtens
3 Secretariat 7-2 Ron Turcotte
4 Sir Barton 20-1 Johnny Loftus
5 Seattle Slew 5-1 Jean Cruguet
6 American Pharoah 6-1 Victor Espinoza
7 Gallant Fox 20-1 Earl Sande
8 Citation 4-1 Eddie Arcaro
9 War Admiral 8-1 Charles Kurtsinger
10 Whirlaway 6-1 Eddie Arcaro
11 Count Fleet 6-1 Johnny Longden
12 Justify 15-1 Mike Smith
13 Omaha 20-1 Willie Saunders
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Post by Twinkle (My Sweet Angel) on May 1, 2020 6:44:33 GMT -5
Here's my picks:
1st Secretariat
2nd Citation
3rd Whirlaway |
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Post by Ætheling on May 1, 2020 13:14:44 GMT -5
Secretariat
Seattle Slew
Whirlaway
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Post by Athena (In Memory) on May 1, 2020 19:21:33 GMT -5
So, we're in the hands of whomever created this virtual race in the first place. And although its done mathematically/algorithms, etc., you still can't take into affect weather conditions, track conditions, someone stumbling, pushing, just how the horse feels that day, and the fact that Eddie Arcaro is riding two horses! (Whirlaway and Citation).
So, all scientifically aside, I'm going with my heart ....
1. Seattle Slew
2. Citation
3. Whirlaway
P.S. I may be drawn and quartered for this, but I never really cared for Secretariat. Can't say that out in public, 'cause his fans WOULD hunt me down!
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Post by Ætheling on May 2, 2020 14:33:51 GMT -5
Wow, Eddie Arcaro was a talented guy, riding two horses in the same race! 
I hadn't even noticed that. MOL!
I have plenty of mint juleps for everyone, help yourselves!
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Post by Athena (In Memory) on May 2, 2020 17:04:13 GMT -5
I'll take that drink now! Thanks, Aetheling.
Yeah, I figured they would give it to Secretariat.
1. Secretariat
2. Citation
3. Seattle Slew
4. Affirmed
5. American Pharoah
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Post by Twinkle (My Sweet Angel) on May 3, 2020 5:36:22 GMT -5
The race results are as follows:
WIN: Secretariat (1973)
PLACE: Citation (1948)
SHOW: Seattle Slew (1977)
4 - Affirmed (1978)
5 - American Pharoah (2015)
6 - Whirlaway (1941)
7 - Count Fleet (1943)
8 - Justify (2018)
9 - Assault (1946)
10 - War Admiral (1937)
11 - Omaha (1935)
12 - Gallant Fox (1930)
13 - Sir Barton (1919)
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Post by Twinkle (My Sweet Angel) on May 3, 2020 6:05:00 GMT -5
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Post by Athena (In Memory) on May 3, 2020 15:00:25 GMT -5
Thank you, Twinkle. They did a good job creating the horses and the race.
Yes, now I read that they created the outcome according to the horses' race times. Well, doing it that way, Secretariat will win because he had the fastest times.
But -- if they do the same thing with the Preakness, Seattle Slew tied Secretariat's time in that race.
Sorry, I don't want to keep harping on this, but no one seems to acknowledge the fact that all through his racing life, Secretariat was on steriods.
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Post by Twinkle (My Sweet Angel) on May 5, 2020 9:54:06 GMT -5
Almost all race horses are always on some sort of drugs. I guess that's one reason why Secretariat gets a pass on that. Also he captured the people's imagination. I was blown away the first time I watched his Belmont. I didn't think what I was seeing was real at first. Nobody expected to see anything like that. He won the first triple crown since 1948 as well. He gave the people what they wanted to see. I also thought he had an interesting look with his coloring, his 3 white legs & I thought his silks were interesting.
Everyone has their favorites & the ones they do not like for whatever reason. My favorite is Alysheba. He captured me the way Secretariat captured most people. A lot of people don't like it when I say this, but I don't like Justify. I don't know why. I just never liked him. A lot of people can't understand how I can't get behind an undefeated triple crown winner like him, but I just can't. |
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Post by Athena (In Memory) on Jun 18, 2020 13:52:59 GMT -5
Not steriods. Secretariat was the only horse taking them back then. But in all fairness, back then nobody knew how much steriods increased athletic ability and I believe Secretariat's people gave it to him to just muscle him up. So with what we all know about steriods now, maybe Secretariat's Triple Crown shouldn't be taken away, but maybe have an asterisk after it?
And, like I mentioned, I rooted for Sham. Poor Sham. He, Monarchos and Secretariat are the only horses to EVER run the Derby under 2 minutes and Sham did it bleeding from the mouth after knocking out 2 teeth when he hit the starting gate as the doors flew open. And when Secretariat left him behind in the Belmont, Sham had a hairline fracture of his right front cannon bone. I didn't know that until I read the Wikipedia article.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sham_(horse)
I loved Alysheba! I think he would have won even more races, but it seemed to me his regular jockey, knowing what a great horse he was, would get him pocketed with no racing room, then think Alysheba would be able to get out of trouble and go on to win.
But you have to admire all the Triple Crown winners because winning those 3 races, so close together, being only 3-year olds, and with all that can happen in a race, they do have to be great horses. You have a problem with Justify; mine is Secretariat.
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Post by Twinkle (My Sweet Angel) on Jun 29, 2020 7:18:08 GMT -5
I wanted to wait until I had a chance to view the above mentioned races before I commented. Since the footage is from 1973, it's not the best in quality to try to really study it. I couldn't tell that anything was wrong with Sham in either race. He seemed to hide it well, which shows how good he was in my opinion. Yes, he really made Secretariat earn it in the Kentucky Derby. I didn't know any of this until I read the post above. Sham had an enlarged heart as well, but not as enlarged as Secretariat.
I agree with what you said about Alysheba's jockey too. He did seemed to get him boxed in. Mommy was beyond disappointed when Alysheba lost the Belmont. She did not take it well & cried her eyes out. If ever there was a horse that she wanted to get a triple crown, it was him. She was about to lose her mind in the time between the Preakness & Belmont that year. That's something she'll never forget.
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had a real problem with trying to get back in. So, I just been coming more often than before. I want to stay logged in so, when I close my laptop for the day or evening, I will be back in without interference thank U
it'll take me some time to get back to what I enjoy.